What Atrocities Did Robert Mueller Commit In Vietnam?

6 05 2018

 By Timothy D. Naegele[1][2]

America’s war in Vietnam was a tragedy of monumental proportions.  More than 58,000 Americans died for nothing, including friends of mine.  More than 300,000 were wounded, not including the “walking wounded,” many of whom live in the United States today.  Both the human and financial costs remain unfathomable: more than 2 million Vietnamese died, and many more were wounded and/or tortured.[3]

The obvious American criminals were John F. Kennedy, who thrust us into that war[4]; his successor Lyndon Johnson who escalated it beyond belief; and the architect of that war in both presidential administrations, the despicable Robert McNamara. There is no question that crimes were covered up by our military; and murderers were hailed as heroes.

Robert Mueller served in the Vietnam War and has been hailed as a military hero, but is that really true? Did he kill even one Vietnamese—the son or daughter of someone—during the civil war in his or her own country?  Hence, it is a fair question to ask what atrocities did Mueller commit, especially in light of the fact that his career afterward is strewn with criminal behavior and treason, by which he has hurt our great nation and the American people.[5]

There is a tragic pattern to his life; and by investigating his actions in the war, we may be able to determine what atrocities he committed against our allies today, the Vietnamese people.  Mueller’s official military records have been “sanitized,” omitting any references to those whom he killed, when and where.[6]  This is not surprising, given how other scandals were covered up during that bloody war and later.

Surely, there are Americans and Vietnamese who will come forward now and discuss openly and honestly who Mueller killed in Vietnam.  Indeed, to tell the truth about Mueller’s victims—and not “sugar coat” any of it—is necessary and essential.  The American and Vietnamese people have a right to know whether he should be treated as a war criminal, just as former Nazis have been treated up to this day.  Nothing less will suffice.

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© 2018, Timothy D. Naegele

[1]  Timothy D. Naegele was counsel to the United States Senate’s Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, and chief of staff to Presidential Medal of Freedom and Congressional Gold Medal recipient and former U.S. Senator Edward W. Brooke (R-Mass). He and his firm, Timothy D. Naegele & Associates, specialize in Banking and Financial Institutions Law, Internet Law, Litigation and other matters (see www.naegele.com and http://www.naegele.com/documents/TimothyD.NaegeleResume.pdf). He has an undergraduate degree in economics from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), as well as two law degrees from the School of Law (Boalt Hall), University of California, Berkeley, and from Georgetown University. He served as a Captain in the U.S. Army, assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency at the Pentagon, where he received the Joint Service Commendation Medal (see, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commendation_Medal#Joint_Service). Mr. Naegele is an Independent politically; and he is listed in Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in American Law, and Who’s Who in Finance and Business. He has written extensively over the years (see, e.g., www.naegele.com/whats_new.html#articles), and can be contacted directly at tdnaegele.associates@gmail.com

[2]  By way of full disclosure, as stated above (see infra n.1), the author served as a Captain in the U.S. Army’s Infantry during the Vietnam War (1967-1969).  He was assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency at the Pentagon, where he received the Joint Service Commendation Medal.

[3]  See, e.g.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War (“Vietnam War”)

[4]  See https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/john-f-kennedy-the-most-despicable-president-in-american-history/ (“John F. Kennedy: The Most Despicable President In American History”) (see also the extensive comments beneath the article)

[5]  The supporting facts for this conclusion are vast; too vast to document here.  However, it is useful to cite a summary provided by Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas entitled “ROBERT MUELLER: UNMASKED,” which can be read by clicking on the following link:


See also https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2017/10/20/the-real-russian-conspiracy-barack-obama-the-clintons-and-the-sale-of-americas-uranium-to-russias-killer-putin/ (“The Real Russian Conspiracy: Barack Obama, The Clintons, And The Sale Of America’s Uranium To Russia’s Killer Putin”) and http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/letters/ct-mueller-russia-trump-united-arab-emirates-20180305-story.html (“Mueller doesn’t care about the truth or justice.  He wants scalps.  He will stop at nothing and destroy as many people along the way as necessary.  You see, in the Marine Corps in Vietnam he learned all about collateral damage.  Like the Terminator, he has no remorse.  Mueller is soulless with motives known only to him”)

[6]  See https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4386090-Read-Mueller-s-military-documents.html



15 responses

6 05 2018

That is a damn good question. Now how many people did Donald Trump murder in Syria after he bombed them TWICE with Syria being absolutely no threat to the USA and Syria not having attacked the USA and Donald Trump not having a congressional declaration of war before he unleased such violence and spent over $100 million in one air strike. Is Donald Trump a war criminal? This question must be answered.


6 05 2018
Timothy D. Naegele

Thank you for your comments.

First, I believe that the United States should be out of the Middle East, period. I have made my views known, and the reasons why, so I will not repeat them here.

See, e.g., https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2015/12/31/is-israel-doomed/#comment-13200

Second, Syria is an absolute disaster of unfathomable human suffering and dimensions; and what the Syrian people have gone through is so so sad.

I can never forget Lina Zinab; and the smiling faces of two young boys, Aylan and Galip Kurdi, who died trying to make their way to a better life. So, yes, I am torn between a practical point of view of no intervention, and a humanitarian one of helping those who are so desperately in need.

See, e.g., https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/human-trafficking/#comment-8632 (“The Fate Of Lina Zinab: Is Life Fair?”)

If the President’s actions curtail the use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people, then they will have served a useful, humanitarian purpose.


28 05 2018
Mary Peklar (MP)

I hope you get this but I wrote it a week ago or longer, so it may be irrelevant—see your individual thread, Thanks. http://www.dickmorris.com/trump-handle-mueller-questions-lunch-alert/


28 05 2018
Timothy D. Naegele

Thank you as always, Mary, for your comments.

You have said:

[T]he only one who can fire Mueller is the AG (in this case, it’s Rosenstein, since Sessions recused himself) base[d] on DOJ rules and regulations.

This is not true. Each of them serves at the pleasure of the President, and can be fired by him later today or at any time in the future. Whether it is politically wise to do so is another question.

I agree that Jeff Sessions should not have taken the job as AG. He is probably among the weakest AG’s in American history, and should be embarrassed.

He is a creature of the Senate, where the “go along, get along” spirit permeates for many. He is not a “hard knuckles” fighter, which is what is needed now (e.g., someone who will terminate Mueller’s “witch hunt,” and prosecute all of the wrongdoers).

I agree with you completely:

OUR job is to VOTE out all Dimms and as many RINOs as possible.

I began as a Dem, but will never vote for another one again. Many in the GOP are a disgrace too.

When I left the U.S. Senate, I concluded that the Dems were “evil” but smart, and the Republicans were “Neanderthals,” dumb and spineless—which is why I became an Independent, and have been one ever since.

According to recent Gallup polling, approximately 42 percent of Americans “identify” as Independents, which speaks volumes about where our political system is today.

See https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/the-rise-of-independents/#comment-3244 (“Record-High 42 Percent Of Americans Identify As Independents“)

Lastly, I saw your additional comments at Dick Morris’ Web site, and have responded to them.


7 05 2018
James Higginbotham

i am a Marine Combat Vet of that war did two tours there.
but you i feel have one fact wrong.
President Kennedy did NOT escalate the Vietnam war, Johnson did after President President Kennedy was murdered.

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7 05 2018
Timothy D. Naegele

Thank you, James, for your comments and your service.

What I said was consistent with what you wrote:

John F. Kennedy . . . thrust us into that war; his successor Lyndon Johnson . . . escalated it


2 03 2019

Naegle was assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency at the Pentagon, where he received the Joint Service Commendation Medal.

He sat behind a desk while most of us got our asses shot off. Pussy!


2 03 2019
Timothy D. Naegele

Thank you for your comments, and thank you too for your service.

I trained as an Infantry officer at Fort Benning, and was assigned to the DIA at the Pentagon. Friends of mine were killed in Vietnam, sadly for nothing. They were “cannon fodder,” and they are gone today.

They were used and misused first by JFK and Robert McNamara; and then by Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara.

See https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/john-f-kennedy-the-most-despicable-president-in-american-history/ (“John F. Kennedy: The Most Despicable President In American History”) (see also the extensive comments beneath the article)

Today, Vietnam is our ally and it is prospering.

The war there was a tragic mistake. As I have written in the article above:

More than 58,000 Americans died for nothing, including friends of mine. More than 300,000 were wounded, not including the “walking wounded,” many of whom live in the United States today. Both the human and financial costs remain unfathomable: more than 2 million Vietnamese died, and many more were wounded and/or tortured.

So so sad.


26 06 2018
Timothy D. Naegele

The Traitor Robert Mueller Speaks From His Heart

Ban Robert Mueller

In meetings with subordinates, Mueller had a habit of quoting Gene Hackman’s gruff Navy submarine captain in the 1995 Cold War thriller Crimson Tide: “We’re here to preserve democracy, not to practice it.”

See https://www.wired.com/story/robert-mueller-vietnam (“THE UNTOLD STORY OF ROBERT MUELLER’S TIME IN COMBAT“) (emphasis added)

Mueller’s distorted sense of our great nation’s democracy is insular, and traitorous. He has committed treason, perhaps unlike any other U.S. governmental official in memory, or in our great nation’s history.

He must become an example, so this never happens again.

See https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2018/03/11/robert-mueller-should-be-executed-for-treason/ (“Robert Mueller Should Be Executed For Treason“) and https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2017/10/20/the-real-russian-conspiracy-barack-obama-the-clintons-and-the-sale-of-americas-uranium-to-russias-killer-putin/ (“The Real Russian Conspiracy: Barack Obama, The Clintons, And The Sale Of America’s Uranium To Russia’s Killer Putin“)


13 08 2018
Ron Michaels

I must have missed something, somewhere. The other day I heard the announcement on the news that the FBI, CIA, NSA, all the members of both the House and Senate, unanimously, and unambiguously AGREED that Russia actually rattled around in our election processes and attempted to change the results of our Trump election. However, “they were unable to change the election results.”

Where was I? I thought I was watching intently when I was suddenly blind-sided with the announcement that Russia had been “found out.” What proof of that did they show? I still haven’t seen anything more than a gleeful recognition of the FACT that ALL the “Russia bad-guy allegations were TRUE.”

For me, it makes no sense. It would seem more reasonable for me to believe that all those illustrious agencies I listed above simply got together and agreed to “fess up.” “The American people justifiably hate and mistrust us. If we don’t call an end to this farce and all agencies agree that we discovered the fox in the hen house we’ll be fighting about this with the American people forever.”

It’s really no surprise that America is dismayed and “mad as hell.” They see irresponsible people doing illegal things and they don’t get punished.


13 08 2018
Timothy D. Naegele

Thank you for your comments, Ron. I agree completely.


24 08 2018
Joseph Curcio

I agree with you that The Vietnam War was a “Black Mark” in our history. I was a combat Marine during the same period as Mr Mueller. You know….it has been real easy for guys like you to talk about “war crimes” and unnecessary death. It is even easier when you can hang the” I served” banner around your neck. Those of us that were in combat, have to hear about how en-moral the war was….and that is why you stayed in DC. Either you were so smart, that you knew all facts that made that war a disaster……or just maybe you did not have the balls to go. I believe it was Jack Nickelson that said something like “Just don’t bitch about how guys like Mueller took care of this Nation’s business…..or pick up a weapon and stand a post”.


24 08 2018
Timothy D. Naegele

Thank you, Joseph, for your comments, and your service.

First, as I have stated, Mueller’s records have been “sanitized.” He and his fellow co-conspirators today are seeking the records of countless Americans, so clearly his records are “fair game”—each and every one of them.

The American people and our friends today, the Vietnamese, have a right—and yes, a need—to know.

Second, the United States has fought two wars in my lifetime, which were not worth fighting: Vietnam and Iraq. Wonderful Americans were nothing more than “cannon fodder,” and many live today with mental and physical wounds of unimaginable depths.

Third, I was assigned to the U.S. Army Element of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) at the Pentagon, where we worked on highly-classified matters relating to Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine commands globally. As a young officer, it was heady stuff; and I worked with wonderful people—and we reported directly to, and briefed the leadership of the DIA.

Fourth, Hollywood actor Jack Nicholson whom you cite, was not a “hero” in Vietnam either. Few Americans were, but I have a friend and law school classmate who was, and later became a Marine general.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Nicholson#Military_service (“Jack Nicholson: Military service”)

Fifth, I had the highest security clearances at the Pentagon, which I relinquished without a qualm when I returned to civilian life and began working in the U.S. Senate. I did not expect them to continue, and they didn’t.

This is why I am appalled when the “Deep State” co-conspirator and traitor, John Brennan, rants about his security clearances being terminated.

See, e.g., https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2018/03/11/robert-mueller-should-be-executed-for-treason/#comment-12657 (“ANOTHER TRAITOR JOHN BRENNAN SQUEALS“)

Security clearances should lapse automatically, except in those very rare cases when a President wants them to continue. Clearly, this is not true of Brennan and so many others, who are squealing like stuffed pigs today.

Sixth, I had friends who died in Vietnam; and even today, they remain in my memory. One, with whom I trained at Fort Benning in Georgia, had a bright future but volunteered for a mission in which his helicopter was shot out of the sky. Another, an old high school friend with a very bright future ahead too, was killed there. Still another came back from Vietnam and killed himself.

I am sure you have countless memories like mine.

Lastly, it has been said that many or most of us died “at least a little bit” in that war, and I believe it is true. Wherever and however we served, it affected our lives forever, in countless ways.

See, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posttraumatic_stress_disorder (“Posttraumatic stress disorder”)


24 08 2018
Joseph Curcio

I know Jack Nicholson (thank you for the correct spelling) was not a hero. I was paraphrasing him from the movie “A Few Good Men”. Look…I know you are a smart guy. Thank You for your service. You say his records were sanitized. I would like to read the same information you read……to confirm your statement. Pardon me for not just taking your word for it. To be the leader you bow to……and I quote “the Truth Is Not The Truth”. You know….if my 10 year old grandson lied as much as our President….as often as our President..I would insist his mother get him some professional help. Do you agree that we have as the leader of our Nation, a man that is unable of telling The American People the SIMPLE truth. Not military or national security issues. Just the simple truth. The Truth…..it is coming. Let the special counsel do their work. Let the chips fall where they fall. Don’t tell me about time and money being spent. They spent much more time on Clinton…and that was over a “Blow Job”. There is no deep state. All the men guys like you and Trump want to fire …..are men that have done nothing but serve this country their entire adult life. They are all life long Republicans….I believe. If they are what you and Trump say they are….why weren’t you and all the other spineless lawmakers fighting this fight before now.

I have to tell you….your boy is a loser and I hope this country does not rest until the Truth Is The Truth. You won’t remember me, but I will make it a point to remember you. When the truth comes out….I will either say to you “I could have never been more wrong. I will say that I am sorry…with the hope you accept my apology. If the truth is not what you believe…I hope you are man enough to make amends to all the men that you have called traitors to this Nation.
I am curious…..Just what would it take for you to realize this man was not fit to run this Nation. What are you going to say “If” the facts show that Donald Trump was in bed with the Russians? How much paperwork will you need to see in order verify his man has broken laws that no sitting President has ever done? I watch Donald Trump….I have been to a long time.
As much as I cannot understand the hate and division that he has caused in this country…….I accept it. As Americans you have to love this Country completely. When I see him stand in front of Americans and lie and belittle good men….Like John McCain…every other sitting President….I want shake the folks behind him…until they see….all that poison is coming from one man. He does not have to do that. He has the right to…I hate it….but that’s America.
If you reply to this message, please don’t attempt to serve me the Trump Cool Aid. If you have some FACTS that you want to share, I would love to hear them. Again…forgive me if I don’t just take your word for it. Don’t insult me by referring me to Fox News. I return I will not quote MSNBC.
You Know….I am just a retired United States Marine. I have a lot of time. So if you want to do some fact check sparring…..bring it on.


24 08 2018
Timothy D. Naegele

Wow, that’s a mouthful, Joseph; and thank you again. 🙂

I grew up in Hollywood (aka Los Angeles), and worked nonstop for 21 years in Washington, D.C.—at the Pentagon, in the U.S. Senate, and as a Washington lawyer on its now fabled “K Street.”

My parents knew the movie business well, and told me never to get involved. An old friend who became a true Hollywood mogul—with all of the trappings—told me essentially the same thing. Today, I have two friends who are at the very top of two major studios.

See https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/31/jerry-perenchio-kind-and-caring/ (“Jerry Perenchio: Kind And Caring”)

Washington is “Hollywood East,” with phonies and sexual predators galore. As I have cited many times, Harry Truman is reported to have said: “If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog.” I could relate countless stories that illustrate this point in spades. Most people pass through Washington, hoping to make their marks on history, if they are lucky. Many if not most are ruthless in their pursuit of “fame.”

For a variety of reasons, I believe Barack Obama was the greatest mistake as a president in American history, although John F. Kennedy was neck-and-neck with him, for that honor. Obama was and is a black racist, while JFK was morally corrupt at every level.

Compare https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2009/12/05/is-barack-obama-a-racist/ (“Is Barack Obama A Racist?”) with https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/john-f-kennedy-the-most-despicable-president-in-american-history/ (“John F. Kennedy: The Most Despicable President In American History”); see also https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2010/09/24/washington-is-sick-and-the-american-people-know-it/#comment-7185 (“Clinton Fatigue“)

Most if not all of our presidents and so-called “leaders” have had “feet of clay.” To rise to the highest levels of American government, one must be a true Narcissist; and there are few exceptions to this rule. Most people would not sacrifice their families, and everything dear to them, to rise to the very pinnacle of “success.” This is true of leaders of other countries too; America is not alone.

The true test of greatness as a president, or so I believe, is how the person served the American people and our great nation. Were we better off after the person’s tenure in office ended? I believe Donald Trump is meeting that test like few presidents in American history. He is raising all ships: black, white, Hispanic; women and men; people of different colors, religions and ethnic backgrounds.

Is the man perfect? No one is, except God—or so I believe.

Just read my articles about Barack Obama and John F. Kennedy, and the extensive comments beneath each of them—and reflect on the lives of Bill and Hillary Clinton—and tell me whether they accomplished a fraction of what Donald Trump has done, this early into his presidency. And the beauty of it is that he did not need the job.

New York City is a rough and tumble town, as I am sure you know, where fortunes are made and spent by people who cut every corner in the book. This is where Donald Trump grew up and prospered; and I am sure he learned all or most of the lessons well.

And yes, I believe fervently that there has been and still is a “Deep State” conspiracy at the highest levels of our government—put in place by Barack Obama, the Clintons and others—to destroy the candidacy and presidency of Donald Trump. This is treason, as I have stated previously; and at the very least, those involved must spend the rest of their lives in prison. And yes too, treason is punishable by death.

Like you, I do not want to see our great nation torn apart, but that effort has been fostered from Day One by those who hated Donald Trump, and wanted to destroy his candidacy and now his presidency. These people are traitors, who must be punished beyond belief. While I do not relish the thought, our great nation may be on the cusp of its second Civil War, which I have written about, including my latest comments.

See https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2018/07/29/it-is-time-for-trump-supporters-to-fight-back/#comment-14583 (“It Is Time For Trump Supporters To Rejoice”)

While you and I can discuss these issues civilly, and agree to disagree, the pure hatred generated by the Left and far-Left is something to behold, and not positive for the nation. I lived through Watergate, which surfaced just as I was leaving the Senate; and I watched it tear apart the country. While I do not want to see it happen again, much less a second Civil War, I believe the Left and far-Left—and their out-of-control media—are mounting a war, to destroy the Trump presidency. This time, the President and his supporters will fight back; and the Left and far-Left are greatly outnumbered and “out-gunned” in countless ways (e.g., support of law enforcement and our military).

Next, here are Mueller’s military records. Read them for yourself.

See https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4386090-Read-Mueller-s-military-documents.html

Lastly, I hate Russia’s killer Putin with a passion, as I have stated countless times. My credentials are impeccable in that regard. However, I hate the “Deep State” co-conspirators just as much, if not more, because they are American traitors.

See https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/the-death-of-putin-and-russia-the-final-chapter-of-the-cold-war/ (“The Death Of Putin And Russia: The Final Chapter Of The Cold War”); see also https://naegeleblog.wordpress.com/2018/07/29/it-is-time-for-trump-supporters-to-fight-back/#comment-14606 (“All The Talk About Impeaching The President Is Nonsense”)


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